Date: September 11, 2013
Secretary of State’s Office, Blue Spruce Conference Room, 1700 Broadway,
Board members present: Rick Johnson, Perry Jultak,
Dan Gincig, Donivon Glassburn, Tom Bednark, Meredith Edwards
Secretary of State officials present: Mike Hardin, Greg
Lestikow, Shannon Bee, Lawrence Runn, Carla Hoke, D.J. Davis, Lisa Marty
The meeting was called to order at 10:05.
The pledge of allegiance was conducted.
A motion was made by Dan Gincig to approve the minutes of
the July 10, 2013 meeting. The motion
was seconded by Tom Bednark and approved by a unanimous vote of the Board.
Greg Lestikow presented a revenue by semester
projection. The projection showed that,
since 2010, revenue has decreased in the 2nd half of each year. These decreases varied in amounts but average
about 5%. The Board discussed that the winter months are busier and that the
time between Memorial Day and Labor Day can be slower with many people taking
vacations during that time.
Additional charts show a drop in gross revenue since 2010 with
bingo and progressive bingo revenue dropping by approximately 8% and pulltabs
at bingo dropping approximately 7% in the same time frame. Raffles have shown a steady increase of nearly
66%, due in large part to house and 50/50 raffles. Pulltabs at bar/clubrooms have increased
approximately 9% since 2010.
In an effort to work off survey feedback from licensees and
the studies by DU students and Jon Runge, the Secretary of State has reached
out to a legislative taskforce, comprised of various stakeholders in the
bingo/raffle community, to help determine some possible changes that could be
made to bingo/raffle statutes for a potential 2014 legislative package. An overview of the report was provided to the
Members of the taskforce present at the meeting provided
some insight as to their activities and ideas for the future legislative
Randy Kanai of the Colorado Amateur Hockey Association discussed
his group’s work with Kroenke Sports Charities and their 50/50 raffles at Mammoth,
Nuggets and Avalanche games. They made
over $115,000 in revenue with half going to the winners and half to
Some challenges Mr. Kanai mentioned included physically
drawing tickets and having to stop selling tickets at half time to meet state
statute requirements. With new
technology and a change in statutes these difficulties could be avoided.
Glenn Tiemann discussed having pulltabs at alternate
venues. Having the ability to sell
pulltabs at malls or bars to obtain greater sales would be a benefit to the
charity and is an idea from other states.
Some other ideas being looked at by the taskforce include
- New Technology Pilots: The possibility of
standardizing a process for the Secretary of State to review new technology and
- Remuneration of Volunteers: As currently
envisioned, this would include allowing only for de minimus amounts of food for volunteers. Any other types of
remuneration would have to be allowed for through a change in the Constitution.
- Event Games: This change would make it clear
that event pull tabs are not progressive pull tabs, and that they are not
governed by the same restrictions and requirements. As part of the discussion,
Rich Lemon of Rocky Mountain Bingo Supply mentioned that any rules made as a
result of this legislation should not limit the number of event pull tabs. .
- Electronic-Only Bingo: This change would give
licensees and players more options. However,
we don’t want to blur the line between charitable gaming and regular gambling.
Additional Board member
Board Chair Doni Glassburn has been unable to locate a
manufacturer/supplier representative for the Board. He will keep looking.
Notice of Proposed Rulemaking was submitted on 8-29-2013.
There will be a hearing in the Secretary of State’s Blue Spruce Conference Room
on 10-2-2013 at 9am. There is
information in the packets available to the Board members on how to submit
comments on the proposed rules change.
The rules change deals with progressive raffles, which will go live on
- Progressive Pulltab Payout
Rich Lemon discussed the desire to increase progressive
pulltab payouts to $15,000 rather than the current $5,000. With the large progressive raffle
opportunities this would be good for pulltabs.
Kevin Fulton discussed progressive bingo deposits from
credit cards and paying out pulltab winners over $500 in cash. The Secretary of State will research this issue.
The Board would like clarification to the TBD’s on the
taskforce initiative sheet by the next meeting.
The Secretary of State cannot commit to completion by the next meeting
as there is research and unknowns to work on prior to completion.
Rich Lemon of Rocky Mountain Bingo stated he was not aware
of the Board meeting from the Secretary of State website. The Secretary of
State will make sure manufacturers and suppliers are added to the Gov delivery
The question of the use of coupons was brought up by Meredith
Edwards. This is a potential pilot
program that the Secretary of State is gathering data on.
Board Chair, Doni Glassburn mentioned that with the casinos
and lottery making huge profits in recent years and the bingo industry
struggling, it is important to bingo to be open to new ideas and to keep
potential ideas within the community.
As a recent addition to the business and licensing division
of the Secretary of State’s office, D.J. Davis complemented everyone on how
productive the meeting had been.
Everyone was engaged in the conversation and working together to move
the bingo/raffle industry forward.
With upcoming legislation Doni Glassburn asked the Board for
more meetings. Additional Board meetings
along with the taskforce can help work on legislation and move the industry
On the motion of Dan Gincig, seconded by Tom Bednark and
approved by a unanimous vote of the Board, meetings have been set for 11/6 and
12/11 at 10:00 AM in the Secretary of State’s Blue Spruce Conference room (no
meeting in October due to the rules hearing on 10/2/2013.)
On the motion of Tom Bednark, seconded by Rick Jackson and
approved by a unanimous vote of the Board, Perry Jultak was elected Secretary
of the Board.
On the motion of Perry Jultak, seconded by Tom Bednark and
approved by a unanimous vote of the Board, the meeting was adjourned at 11:35.
- Research rule on $500 pull tab payouts by check.
- Look into whether halls can offer coupons
- Add manufacturers and suppliers to GovDelivery
The next meeting of the Board will be November 6, 2013.